Many persons speak about inclusion but we are going in depth on some gentlemen who are living it right now with the CERT Volunteer Training Programme. We are joined by Crisis Management Coordinator, Trinidad and Tobago Red Cross Society, Stephan Kishore, Senior Disaster Management Coordinator at the Ministry of Rural Development and Local Government, Jerry David, and Vice-President of the T&T Association for the Hearing Impaired, Stephen Dookhran.